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Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby TSBGOD » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:32 pm

If you have not tried it yet, you are missing the boat. Easiest way to make money from your own home I have ever seen. Helping me out big time! :}

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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby clarkham » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:31 am

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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby Suicideking81 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:54 am

Living in Louisiana restricts us residents to free play only. I think there are other states in the same boat as well.
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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby TSBGOD » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:00 am

clarkham wrote:Its getting dirty though.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/sp ... l?referer=


Don't be an idiot. That is irrelevant in the big picture. Nothing like inside trading like they making it sound likie. It will only get bigger and bigger. It is a nice side source of income. Especially if I find more fish like REGULATOR!

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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby clarkham » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:13 am

Im an idiot? Was that not dirty?

And are you really that naive to think that employees of these companies cant alter prices, use algorithms, and do other things to reduce the odds of the average player?

I hated to see this. I love DFF myself. This is real though and should be cause for concern.

Unless you are just playing in small games with your friends...
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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby TSBGOD » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:20 am

Not naive at all, but this is site to site. Not on the site they work for. 2 different things. If it was the site they were working for, I would have issue for sure. Alter prices? LOL. It will only get bigger and bigger, no cause for alarm. Plus, it does not mean their employees will win, just means they know percentages of what players were played in the games, still a long shot to win. Nothing at all like inside trading what so ever.

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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby coconuts622 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:43 am

I look at it this way: the players STILL HAVE TO PERFORM, regardless of what happens. That being said, having inside information that the rest of us do not have - seeing which players have a lower ownership percentage, gives them an advantage. Personally, if you work at one of these sites, you should not be allowed to play DFS anywhere. Just like how in any sweepstakes/contests, the people who work for that company who's doing the giveaway are not allowed to enter. It's a matter of business ethics.
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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby TSBGOD » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:45 am

coconuts622 wrote:I look at it this way: the players STILL HAVE TO PERFORM, regardless of what happens. That being said, having inside information that the rest of us do not have - seeing which players have a lower ownership percentage, gives them an advantage. Personally, if you work at one of these sites, you should not be allowed to play DFS anywhere. Just like how in any sweepstakes/contests, the people who work for that company who's doing the giveaway are not allowed to enter. It's a matter of business ethics.


100% agree.

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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby TSBGOD » Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:26 am

Coconuts, do you play on these sites?

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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby clarkham » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:20 am

Lol. You 100% agree with him while you call me an idiot, when he and I said essentially the same exact thing. If you work in the field, you can scheme the system, and increase your odds even at another site. They shouldnt be playing at all, on any site, and thus this is a little dirty. Poor business ethics, just like coconuts said.

I never said it was insider trading.

And I never said that it wouldnt continue to grow or that you cant make money at it either. Gees. Chill. I just said it was getting a little dirty (as it grows). I wondered if you had seen that article.
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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby TSBGOD » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:51 am

Yeah i heard about it the minute it happened. A little dirty yes, but is irrelevant IMO. I agreed with Justin because you still have to have your players perform, so to me little difference.

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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby coconuts622 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:31 pm

Yes, I play on Fanduel. Most likely I'll finish out what cash I've got left on there and be done. I used to play online poker through Absolute years ago, and when I heard about the cheating scandal, I was done. Getting to be that way here.
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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby TSBGOD » Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:39 pm

coconuts622 wrote:Yes, I play on Fanduel. Most likely I'll finish out what cash I've got left on there and be done. I used to play online poker through Absolute years ago, and when I heard about the cheating scandal, I was done. Getting to be that way here.


I really think this was a good thing that happened. It will be more regulated and probably in future just start showing the percentage owned for players for everyone. This for sure was a good thing. I do not think it is nothing to quit over man. Easy money I think.The 4 people through the first 4 weeks that won the million are ordinary everyday people. 1 guy was a truck driver and gave his 2 week notice after he won. Was his first tournament ever that he entered.

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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby drake » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:28 pm

The amount of ads I've seen for these things shows they are doing very well. And in order to be doing very well, like any gambling outfit, they need a lot more losers than winners. I am sure people who really know their shit can do well, as do some who truly get lucky. Though I think the average dub is just going to be giving them money. There are safer investments. :D
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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby TSBGOD » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:44 pm

drake wrote:The amount of ads I've seen for these things shows they are doing very well. And in order to be doing very well, like any gambling outfit, they need a lot more losers than winners. I am sure people who really know their shit can do well, as do some who truly get lucky. Though I think the average dub is just going to be giving them money. There are safer investments. :D


I do agree you have to know what you are doing, but if you do...easy peasy! They do not care who wins or loses. They make their money regardless. That has zero to do

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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby swampc1 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:55 pm

Draaaake,

You are actually exactly wrong. You assume the opposite here. Allow me to explain.

No, they do not need losers. Actually, they love having lots of people win. They don't make money by taking your losses. They make money by getting a "rake" of sorts... or "juice" if you like. You are not playing against them. In fact, you are playing against others like me or TSBG or reg.
For example, if you and I were playing straight up head to head and The entry fee was $5 each then the winner gets $9. In essence, the loser gives his $5 to the winner (thanks frank) and the site (fanduel or DK) keeps $1.

That $1 they keep is their rake or juice. They actually take NOTHING from the loser. They only take from winners.

So you can roughly estimate that they take 10 percent of the action. Doesn't matter who wins or loses. Each week they get tens of millions in action. They take roughly 10%. Yes, they are doing well. No, they don't need or want losers.
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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby drake » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:36 pm

Thank you for the explanation. Though from a user perspective, the end result is essentially the same, no?
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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby clarkham » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:36 am

No, its not. A casino wants its players to lose. Poker and daily fantasy sites just want volume. They get a cut of the total amount of money wagered. Youre not playing against the house. Youre playing against the other participants.
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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby lightninglarry » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:37 am

as a huge fan of DFS, i play on multiple sites and have for a few years, as its way more exciting than season long leagues. If any employee has the ability to check / view owned %, that is a HUGE advantage. Yes they players have to play and perform still, but in tournaments is more than guys just playing and out playing guys. In big field tournaments ill take the "risk" of rostering Player A if he is less than 10 % owned and has a good matchup, or a must play that was overlooked. Example, on DK this week Julio Jones "should" be the WR to pay up for against a horrible Wash defense, in a bounce back game. Im "fading" Julio for the most part and "pivoting" to ODB in almost as good of a matchup vs a team that is traveling across the country. Will Julio go off? Probably so, Will ODB? Maybe so. But to my point, even if i could go into the future, and see Julio will score say 20 pts, to ODBs 17. If Julio is 25 percent owned to ODBs, 10 percent, I will be ALL IN on ODB. To me that is the hardest part of the tournaments is gauging public interest and how much certain guys will go owned. Obvious plays stick out, but those obvious plays will not win your tournaments and big cashes when the avg joe will put them in their lineup and create the "edge" and make those players go around the 25 percent owned clip. What wins you the tournament is the guy who flies in under the radar or is the sneaky guy(Travis Benjamin made a few people millionaires in week 2).

To the guys defense, he won it on a total seperate company, and different salaries, diff pt system(somewhat), and he had no ability to see %s on the other company. However, as a player, the ownership % are pretty flat across both major sites as their arent the big differences for the most part, give a 5-8 percent variance barring any major salary difference. So saying that, most of the time on both sites, the players % owned is generally level on both.
This will not prevent me from playing, but Im glad Fanduel and DK stepped up and banned their employees from playing not only on their sites, but from the industry completely.
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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby TSBGOD » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:45 am

Agreed. This is the best thing that ever happened. If it never was exposed, it would of been worse. Now, it has a chance to be regulated, and maybe even ownership posted before all games start.

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Re: Fanduel or Draftkings

Postby ryan11p » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:38 am

Frankie as you know I play draft kings every week but have yet to try fan duel
So far I have done pretty good won 80.00 last week


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